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tdoc25 · **Joined:** Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:15 pm **Posts:** 219

The rebels say they have killed the Dictator !
In a gun battle in sirte,Libya . It's breaking news. Shhowing pics of his death and all, Not sure if this is True ?

simmen · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:33 am

I have heard the same, but not from a sure enough source to say that its true.

tdoc25 · **Joined:** Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:15 pm **Posts:** 219

Well the PM and others are now confirming his death.. He's no longer playing real life BattleDawn :lol:

riski1234567dr · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:37 am

but can we trust the sources? Until I see the body, I'll remain skeptical.

Seth · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:37 am

Out of the flames and into the fire.

How long will it be before we move to take out the NTC from Libya now? Maybe when the American people get wise to what was done here? Maybe...

The UN continues to be a distorted force in the world. They were formed with the notion of preserving peace. So far, all they do is provide diplomatic immunity to criminals, and make war.

In Libya, they stood by "rebels" whom are sold to the people on the other end as terrorists and members of Al Qeada (one need only use Google to find this out!), the leader of which admitted that he recruited forces which had fought against the USA in both Afghanistan and Iraq to come fight as rebels in Libya.

What a wicked web they weave.

The world needs to wake up. The UN needs to be done away with. Their crimes are not without historical documentation (again, Google!), and the UN itself is given immunity from prosecution for ANY of it! This is not logical, nor has their performance been even moral.

I have come to see them as just another group serving special interests. They just have more power and less liability.

As far as Libya goes...now that this man has been taken out by the "rebels" :roll:

, it will be interesting to see how long it is before the NTC impliments Sharia law, as so many of the fighters are radicals, and how long before the UN decides this is not in their best interests either.

Gaddafi is dead...great. Now what? Watch.

mfreak · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:28 am

Yeah, rightly said Seth. Like Ive said multiple times before, the US and allies are on a quest to eradicate whoever they think are against their imperialistic motives.

The UN is an extension of this. In my opinion all other member states are a joke, except for the 5 permanent members of the UN security council. These 5 members have been doing whatever they want in order to further their own interests. The most important force among the 5 being the US. Check out the number of motions vetoed by every country:

At the height of the cold war, the Soviet Union must have vetoed almost anything that served american interests, but after they defaulted, just look at the amount of vetoes the US has done. Clearly showing the control it has over the UN. China doesnt care as long as no one stands in its way.

Clearly this itself shows that the UN is nothing but a puppet organization that either needs to be reformed or dealt with. Infact the security council assuming responsibility for the rest of the world itself signifies bigotry.

Seth · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:11 pm

Right. I saw an episode of Penn & Tellers Bull****! show recently, in which the topic was "world peace". They thoroughly covered the UN and how it was formed under the guise of promoting world peace, but ended up being nothing but a BS special interest group capable and often guilty of war crimes.

They even made reference to the fact that peacekeeping troops in many of the dispatched countries were known to have engaged in rape and pillaging of the indigenous populations there. At this point they made it known that it had happened, and that the troops know they have immunity. They are so brazen as to rape women in village squares in front of the entire population of said village, and because of the immunity which is granted to them, no charges of any sort are ever brought against them.

Again, a simple Google search will turn up a wealth of such historical facts regarding such activities.

Reformed? I think it simply needs to be done away with. Let nations be sovereign and independant, and stop meddling in their affairs unless a direct threat to national security arises. Trying to preemptively negate such threats through manipulation of populations has been a detrement up to this point. Just look at the soviet/afghan conflict, and how the meddling in those affairs played out for the US and the world in the long run.

We armed and radicalized the rebels in afghanistan when we were indirectly subverting soviet efforts there. Then, fast forward 15-20 years and we are there fighting the same forces we armed and radicalized.

Its like Ron Paul says:

"What if what we perceive as terrorism is simply a predictable result of meddling in the affairs of others?"

if there is any truth to this, that means that the very existence of the UN promotes terrorism!

Jake · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:15 pm

I heard that Al Queda was trying to make friends with the rebels to try and get a politician on the inside and take Egypt, However I didnt hear that Al queda had joined in the fight against Gaddafi.

Seth · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:20 pm

Its more than that. The rebel commander himself IS an Al-Qaeda asset. He also recruited other Al-Qaeda soldiers to assist in the effort there, and to boot, the UN and specifically the USA not only fought along side those forces, but then officially recognized them as the new official govt. of Libya.

All of this is easy knowledge to find with the resources of the internet.

Google search term "Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi" (this was the commander of the Rebel invasion!)

Look for yourself! See who he is, and then ask yourself what is wrong with this picture?

mfreak · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:48 pm

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Reformed? I think it simply needs to be done away with. Let nations be sovereign and independant, and stop meddling in their affairs unless a direct threat to national security arises. Trying to preemptively negate such threats through manipulation of populations has been a detrement up to this point. Just look at the soviet/afghan conflict, and how the meddling in those affairs played out for the US and the world in the long run.

We armed and radicalized the rebels in afghanistan when we were indirectly subverting soviet efforts there. Then, fast forward 15-20 years and we are there fighting the same forces we armed and radicalized.

Its like Ron Paul says:

"What if what we perceive as terrorism is simply a predictable result of meddling in the affairs of others?"

Heh. Yeah, I think if not the UN, we should atleast do away with the UN security council. The 5 members instead of being an exclusive power circle, should join the others as equals.

Yes, terrorism as we see today is a remnant of US actions back in those days. Not just the training of these so called terrorist, but the idea that the US planted in their heads. Which is: "If a world power comes down to OUR land, no matter how strong they are, we can beat them". Secondly, who knows, maybe the US actually had enough info back then about these terrorists, but purposefully let them grow, in order to do what they are doing today lol (Ron Paul's - a predictable result ...). I mean the MIC ALWAYS needs an enemy. They cant do without one. If there were no enemies, there would be no wars and if there were no wars, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush, just to name a couple, wont be able to get rich investing in the same corporations that do business in Iraq.

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