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Fordekash · **Joined:** Mon May 13, 2013 10:03 pm **Posts:** 93

I'd like to purpose changes to the shotguns. I am not suggesting all be applied just one of the ideas to curve the overreliance of them.

1) Make the things use like 60 bullets a shot.

2) Greatly lower the % of hits above 80 HP.

3) Provide a tighter window. say 50-90

4) Cause a large drain of resources on the user I.E. 100 heat per shot or 100 energy.

Let me know what you think. I feel like the game has become a flip of a coin or paper, rock scissors where as it use to have a chess like quality.

ctiebs · **Joined:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:49 am **Posts:** 3

Fordekash wrote:

I'd like to purpose changes to the shotguns. I am not suggesting all be applied just one of the ideas to curve the overreliance of them.

1) Make the things use like 60 bullets a shot.

2) Greatly lower the % of hits above 80 HP.

3) Provide a tighter window. say 50-90

4) Cause a large drain of resources on the user I.E. 100 heat per shot or 100 energy.

Let me know what you think. I feel like the game has become a flip of a coin or paper, rock scissors where as it use to have a chess like quality.

Seems like some very good ideas.

Fordekash · **Joined:** Mon May 13, 2013 10:03 pm **Posts:** 93

also noticed in the new system the shotgun could weight a bunch?

philippinexile1995 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:38 am

Shotguns? I think they already exist (Let's say, for example, the weapon called < Safe Shot > that deals an average of 78 damage per shot). There are weapons that consume a ridiculous amount of ammunition and deal tremendous damage. I think there's even no need for more weapons.

P.S. You misspelled "shotgun" in the post title. Please excuse me for being a grammar Nazi...

Andy · **Posted:** Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:42 am

philippinexile1995 wrote:

Shotguns? I think they already exist (Let's say, for example, the weapon called < Safe Shot > that deals an average of 78 damage per shot). There are weapons that consume a ridiculous amount of ammunition and deal tremendous damage. I think there's even no need for more weapons.

P.S. You misspelled "shotgun" in the post title. Please excuse me for being a grammar Nazi...

From what I understand he isn't suggesting new weapons. His problem is with the shotgun X's at level 30 that deal either a small amount of damage or a HUGE amount of damage. These weapons DO add a lot of chance to the game and I've disliked them ever since they were released.

I think they do need change, and would be something great to change with the upcoming patch.

Fordekash · **Joined:** Mon May 13, 2013 10:03 pm **Posts:** 93

You are correct Andy. The level 30 shotguns are a great idea and I'd like to thank the developers for being innovative and providing new items. Sometimes great ideas just do play out so well in practice. I think they make a great novelty item but the % of high damage should be lowered (just one idea) so these items remain as a novelty.

On the other hand, I have been using the shotgun in the development server and notice that it does serve as a great equalizer. someone brand new without +10 fused items can contend with old timers.... I know this doesn't help my case but thought it was interesting.

philippinexile1995 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:30 am

Andy wrote:

philippinexile1995 wrote:

Shotguns? I think they already exist (Let's say, for example, the weapon called < Safe Shot > that deals an average of 78 damage per shot). There are weapons that consume a ridiculous amount of ammunition and deal tremendous damage. I think there's even no need for more weapons.

P.S. You misspelled "shotgun" in the post title. Please excuse me for being a grammar Nazi...

From what I understand he isn't suggesting new weapons. His problem is with the shotgun X's at level 30 that deal either a small amount of damage or a HUGE amount of damage. These weapons DO add a lot of chance to the game and I've disliked them ever since they were released.

I think they do need change, and would be something great to change with the upcoming patch.

Oh I see. I didn't understand what was suggested. I suppose there is nothing wrong with a little more changes. So, what's the catch? Do we get to see new perks that affect the game play?

jtothepowerof8 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:28 am **Posts:** 264

Just get rid of the silly things and replace them with a weapon that doesn't use bullets, does 20-35 damage (+20 for physical), range 2, 2 knock back, and +25 heat/energy damage. Using the shotgun for anything other than what this new weapon could do is just gambling. No strategy at all and very boring.

Fordekash · **Joined:** Mon May 13, 2013 10:03 pm **Posts:** 93

I agree. Seems like with the new weight system they have been phased out?

lord2341 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:53 pm **Posts:** 51

Just scrap the shotguns too many people use them and they win only from luck I lose loads of battles and they are mainly shotguns :evil:

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