And something really got to me.

How do admins go from one extreme to the other? I mean you've all pretty much said that the HoF is pointless as you can't compare eras to the extreme where you'd rather it not be there (even if that won't happen.. I hope).

Yeeeeet, you're willing to protect it by banning someone who took crystals he shouldn't have and taking those crystals away from him, a whole other extreme. As he's stated the guys he took the crystals from couldn't have put up a fight against him. Since you don't care for the HoF as they don't cross over to different eras, what does it matter that he got those crystals?

Then the thing that really got to me. You told Mot he couldn't take those crystals and he asked for possible ways for you to allow it and you didn't give him any. When sayan asked, you said no once. Sayan cheated you by having a friend spam his friends and then he conquered the spammer... Wouldn't have got 2nd HoF if he hadn't done that still went unnoticed when in fact Sayan did more wrong than Mot had.

How can you possibly punish one player so harshly, while others have gone unnoticed? If you're unable to keep to your rules, don't set them until you find a way to make it fair for all I think.

Aaalso sorry for bringing it up ^_^ I didn't really want to express my opinion on the matter, but I felt the need to in the end.

The only reason it's still there is because of the amount of reds people pour into getting there.

I think we do need to have a discussion about the whole taking crystals without a fight thing. If you go to war with someone and they get their army out of the way because they know they can get blues just with their power im not sure how that is the fault of the conqueror.

What I'm really wondering about is the difference between crystals and relics. I'm pretty sure that all of the guys in the top 10 best of all times finished with 10 personal relics, which were all handed peacefully by other alliances or transferred from a teammate via a spammer, if you can do it with relics, why can't you do it with crystals?

There need to be more solid rules on this, it can't be left to the admin to decide who "deserves" what. It leads to too many arguments.

It also kind of comes back to the whole blue token system which I think needs to go as well, but that's another conversation.

shhh.. I an anti RoFL k.. >_> <_<

This didn't happen to Sayan... on your server xD

I know it's not the admins fault. But there's times it's happened and it hasn't been brought to question, while other times it's resulted in heavy bans and loss of crystals. It's inconsistent which is what I have against it, not the rule itself.

My bad ^_^ I edited what I said a little bit more as it was a lil harsh.

i fully agree with andy here. while i think monty should have been shortly banned. i strongly think that he should have had a way to regain those xtals. the fact that simmen went so far as to say that monty was NOT ALLOWED to backstab or it would result IN A BAN was ridiculous. it really showed that while your intentions ilona were pure, simmen was not quite as much. i will repeat and clarify. monty asked simmen if monty was allowed to backstab his allies for their 100 or so xtals, and simmen said this was not allowed. simmen can i have your personal reasoning behind this?

also ilona id like to state, why is it bannable to have the right friends around to give you gifts? if bill gates is my grandfather and buys my girlfriend a 10000$ prom dress, and she wins prom queen, is it unfair to that pretty girl who is poor and could only buy a 1000$ prom dress? yes it is, but should the administration of the school remove the prom queen status of my girlfriend? no, that would be discrimination? simular situation, u discriminate against people who have friends or have diplomacy enough to be gifted xtals for whatever reason. be it for rank or so the enemy does not get them.

Andy noooooo, thinking gets you banned.

Okay so my two cents. First off I think HoF should get removed and they should just award medals purely based on performance in that singular era (agreeing with Ilona and Seth on that point). Like Ilona said alot of the HoF people are in there because of special events. Removing the HoF will get rid of the issues with people leaving their alliance and conquering everyone for the xtals and people handing them over and things as theres no real added benefit because theyll already have first in that era and the HoF stuff.

With that being said with the monty instance the guy had 150 squads, 30 of which were ranged 5s. He had over 10k more score than the second place player. When someone says you can have second place and save your army or you can get 100th place and lose everything by defending your xtals, of course that players gonna move his troops of his colony.