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babolat
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Post subject: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:18 pm |
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Untill recently i believed like many that the universe came into being by a hot big bang method, this can be supported by evidence such as CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) and redshift. However what has fascinated me for years is how this singularity occurred and recently i came across some very interesting views by a physicist named Michio Kaku in a book called " physics of the impossible "
Now Michio proposed the idea of the multiverse, an existance in which our universe is not the only one in existance but rather an expanded pocket of space-time, and that around our universe there are other pockets of expanded and nonexpanded space-time.
But thats not the interesting bit he stated that in modern day astro-physics there are multiple theories on this subject with various opinions but alot of support for the multiverse theory and the existance of multiple pockets of space-time.
Michio also proposed this, that our universe was originally a small pocket of space-time however this pocket got smashed into by two expanding pockets of space-time from exactly opposing directions simultaneously, there is evidence of this according to michio and other members of his research group by the formation of our universe like the unexplainable dominance of matter over anti-matter after the cancelling out process after the ' hot big bang's ' occurence.
He also proposes that our universe is expanding and will sooner or later impact on other expanding universes and this may provide us of a way of exiting this universe at some stage in our distant futures to inhabit a younger universe etc so on so forth. i found this idea fascinating and gripping the idea of multi-verses continuously expanding and colliding together.
However understand this Michio in his profoundly high levels of understanding still supports the idea of God the higher level sentient being in fairly close terms to how the catholic church views him, as Michio has delved deeper and deeper into understanding the workings of everything we know around us he becomes more and more convinced in the existance in God and tells us all to have faith, as the wonders of the universe prove of a higher level of existance.
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:16 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:04 am |
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I didnt bother to read all of it, but is Michio Kaku the authority on God and the creation of the universe? Pfff. God is an imaginary concept. If you choose to randomly claim god created the universe, sure go ahead. But that doesnt make it true.
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:00 am |
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As you delve into the works of scientists in the field of quantum physics (which is what delves into time space etc.) Realize this is a theoretical science. No one can prove what started this universe, how it came to be, or anything because we simply don't have the technology capable of proving any of it. While his theories of multiple universes is intriguing, let me remind you he cannot prove its validity. The same goes for those who believe in a God.
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:23 am |
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mfreak wrote: I didnt bother to read all of it, but is Michio Kaku the authority on God and the creation of the universe? Pfff. God is an imaginary concept. If you choose to randomly claim god created the universe, sure go ahead. But that doesnt make it true. Please actually bother to read an argument before you refute it as an imaginary concept. You saw the word 'God' in there, and immediately assumed that it was an argument for the existence of some divine entity. It is not. It's a theory regarding the beginning of the universe. In fact, the only mention of God is in the final paragraph.
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THENICKRULZ
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:37 am |
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babolat wrote: Untill recently i believed like many that the universe came into being by a hot big bang method, this can be supported by evidence such as CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) and redshift. However what has fascinated me for years is how this singularity occurred and recently i came across some very interesting views by a physicist named Michio Kaku in a book called " physics of the impossible "
Now Michio proposed the idea of the multiverse, an existance in which our universe is not the only one in existance but rather an expanded pocket of space-time, and that around our universe there are other pockets of expanded and nonexpanded space-time.
But thats not the interesting bit he stated that in modern day astro-physics there are multiple theories on this subject with various opinions but alot of support for the multiverse theory and the existance of multiple pockets of space-time.
Michio also proposed this, that our universe was originally a small pocket of space-time however this pocket got smashed into by two expanding pockets of space-time from exactly opposing directions simultaneously, there is evidence of this according to michio and other members of his research group by the formation of our universe like the unexplainable dominance of matter over anti-matter after the cancelling out process after the ' hot big bang's ' occurence.
He also proposes that our universe is expanding and will sooner or later impact on other expanding universes and this may provide us of a way of exiting this universe at some stage in our distant futures to inhabit a younger universe etc so on so forth. i found this idea fascinating and gripping the idea of multi-verses continuously expanding and colliding together.
However understand this Michio in his profoundly high levels of understanding still supports the idea of God the higher level sentient being in fairly close terms to how the catholic church views him, as Michio has delved deeper and deeper into understanding the workings of everything we know around us he becomes more and more convinced in the existance in God and tells us all to have faith, as the wonders of the universe prove of a higher level of existance. lol look at this guys signature...
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:45 am |
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THENICKRULZ wrote: babolat wrote: Untill recently i believed like many that the universe came into being by a hot big bang method, this can be supported by evidence such as CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) and redshift. However what has fascinated me for years is how this singularity occurred and recently i came across some very interesting views by a physicist named Michio Kaku in a book called " physics of the impossible "
Now Michio proposed the idea of the multiverse, an existance in which our universe is not the only one in existance but rather an expanded pocket of space-time, and that around our universe there are other pockets of expanded and nonexpanded space-time.
But thats not the interesting bit he stated that in modern day astro-physics there are multiple theories on this subject with various opinions but alot of support for the multiverse theory and the existance of multiple pockets of space-time.
Michio also proposed this, that our universe was originally a small pocket of space-time however this pocket got smashed into by two expanding pockets of space-time from exactly opposing directions simultaneously, there is evidence of this according to michio and other members of his research group by the formation of our universe like the unexplainable dominance of matter over anti-matter after the cancelling out process after the ' hot big bang's ' occurence.
He also proposes that our universe is expanding and will sooner or later impact on other expanding universes and this may provide us of a way of exiting this universe at some stage in our distant futures to inhabit a younger universe etc so on so forth. i found this idea fascinating and gripping the idea of multi-verses continuously expanding and colliding together.
However understand this Michio in his profoundly high levels of understanding still supports the idea of God the higher level sentient being in fairly close terms to how the catholic church views him, as Michio has delved deeper and deeper into understanding the workings of everything we know around us he becomes more and more convinced in the existance in God and tells us all to have faith, as the wonders of the universe prove of a higher level of existance. lol look at this guys signature... Please do not spam the Discussion and Debates forum.
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:52 am |
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:19 am |
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well, we have different opinions on matters like this.. as for me, ill go with the theory of God as the creator.. i've thought of this for a lot of times but still i arrived choosing the creation theory..
why?
coz if its really a from a Big bang then who is responsible for the Big Bang? if its that space-time-multiverse stuff, then who's responsible for that? well, if you say that its from cells or something (im kinda not a science-oriented person) then who made the cell or that stuff that start all of those theories
well, that's just for me..
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w1lll
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Post subject: Re: Beginings of the universe and universe dynamics Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:07 am |
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xinicko wrote: well, we have different opinions on matters like this.. as for me, ill go with the theory of God as the creator.. i've thought of this for a lot of times but still i arrived choosing the creation theory.. why? coz if its really a from a Big bang then who is responsible for the Big Bang? if its that space-time-multiverse stuff, then who's responsible for that? well, if you say that its from cells or something (im kinda not a science-oriented person) then who made the cell or that stuff that start all of those theories well, that's just for me.. If the universe was created by some deity, why would they create evidence such as red shift and background radiation that points to the existence of the Big Bang? Why not make it obvious that the universe is down to intelligent design. Why design the universe to fool people as to how it came into existence?
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