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 Post subject: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:19 am 
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For all to judge and to end all allegations.

This is/was the agreement made between Vulc and BT on tick 1438.

Please note that from start some of the agreed points were trampled by one of the parties.

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This Treaty is between BT-BT1(NKS)-F3AR and VULC-V3-VULK-V4

- Parties:
* BT-BT1(NKS in time due to reorganisations)-F3AR, hereafter called BT
* Vulc-V3-Vulk-V4, hereafter called Vulc

This treaty is valid for Earth 3, era 14 only. This treaty can be amended only by mutual agreement

Conditions:

- Territories:
* BT does not come into NA, limited to Panama
* BT does not come into Africa
* Vulc does not come into Antartica besides to fullfil relic conditions
* Vulc does not come into SA besides to fullfil relic conditions.

- Relics:
* BT commit to hand over at the very end their relics to VULC, for an eventual 10 relics gathered.
* VULC doesnt ask for BT relics
* VULC will be given the opportunity build a single corridor from NA, thru SA into AA, to obtain any relic not held by BT.

- Allies:
* BT and VULC team up against ACID, to share the loot with a strategy to be developed together
* this Treaty is made for VULC to finish 1st and BT 2nd

- Loyalty:
* VULC asks BT, and vica versa, to write themselves these conditions to engage their loyalty and honor

- Termination:
*This treaty can only be terminated when either party stops playing or is incapacitated to play E3era14

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 Post subject: Re: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:06 am 
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Exactly read the last bit about going into AA to obtain any relic not held by BT from SA

That is what we were doing obtaining the relics not held and you guys says that was a breach because we had ops in SA or because we conquered those who resisted

We had ops in SA to return out of there i know it would have pleased you guys to make us stuck there

We conquered them to kill there resources as it take forever to pull relics up out of hostile terrritory so we had to take silos and kill income to reduce any threat of them following us

As a member of your allaince said you guys did backstab and did recognize it so lets not play games about it

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 Post subject: Re: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 1:10 am 
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you still can try to buy a clean conscience, ffstkn, but all you were are backstabbers. You lost your honor here trying to excuse the relics you stole.

And please you did it when VULC was on ACID who became rank 1 with a too easy life while BT and VULC fought.

Anyway you won nothing by fighting and finally you were punished by VULC for your backstabbing, in the fight and not by a sneaky tortuous tricky way.

This is deserved, VULC was the best of this era, no doubt, with few friends only against 3/4 of the server refugeed on the snow.

CONGRATS, VULC, YOU WERE THE BEST


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 Post subject: Re: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:24 am 
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Jeez BT...after all that backstabb you did you are asking ppl to judge against us??!

You asked for a nap and sent us to war so you could heal your wounds to come again after us...asked us to go to war together...where were you???
Stole with sneaky methods our relics while we were away on a war you asked for ??

It was in the deal we move on AA for relics capture that were not yours so we did nothing wrong really...

We won you once and then again and again...

VULC is far better...just admit it

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 Post subject: Re: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:49 am 
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hmm...FINALLY! :lol: i was actually waiting for this..only a matter of time..well at lease, you waited till era end... :mrgreen: This so called treaty even exist because of Shaymcnasty and i talked about it...if you notice, he quit after this was issued...i wonder why :o

let me see...

- Parties:
* BT-BT1(NKS in time due to reorganisations)-F3AR, hereafter called BT

you know whats funny, NKS started attacking our opz..we told and informed Nigel so many times not to attack..and this was his final response...Image

shocking...me too...ignore about Boo and him..long story... :mrgreen:

* Vulc-V3-Vulk-V4, hereafter called Vulc

This treaty is valid for Earth 3, era 14 only. This treaty can be amended only by mutual agreement

Conditions:

- Territories:
* BT does not come into NA, limited to Panama
[JayR created 2 opz at CA..we request to raze it ASAP, failed so we took it...dont recall complainning...]

* BT does not come into Africa [check! TQ!]

* Vulc does not come into Antartica besides to fullfil relic conditions
[If im not mistaken, we did do that, only, they fought and nuke..so we fought back, a mere self-defence.. :mrgreen: you expect us just to watch our martians die not fighting back??]

* Vulc does not come into SA besides to fullfil relic conditions.
As mentioned above

- Relics:
* BT commit to hand over at the very end their relics to VULC, for an eventual 10 relics gathered.
i rest my case, someone said, you had to use nb to get those relics of ours...maybe not you, but we definitely know for sure who..sad... :cry:

* VULC doesnt ask for BT relics Check!

* VULC will be given the opportunity build a single corridor from NA, thru SA into AA, to obtain any relic not held by BT.

- Allies:
* BT and VULC team up against ACID, to share the loot with a strategy to be developed together
you know whats ironic, we waited and waited, we(VULC/V3(VBH)) ended up finishing them off without BT..they rellocated..then next thing you know..ACID and BT merge... :lol: :lol: excuss was ARM1/ARM2 holding BT back...only we found out the true reason they were allies too and BT was just recovering fast and follow ACID plan...to have a final battle with VULC sad :cry: ffstkn..once again, it may not be you, and if you insist your clean conscience, then we know whose doing the dirty stuff... ;)

* this Treaty is made for VULC to finish 1st and BT 2nd
Ahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: i think out of the list, this is the only part i like...thank you sir!! sadly, BT came 3rd

- Loyalty:
* VULC asks BT, and vica versa, to write themselves these conditions to engage their loyalty and honor NO COMMENT!


WELL, cant be bothered saying much...what's done is done...nothing you can do..Move on for the better...not for the worst! Life goes on! you takecare now..till next time...

PS: this era is for my lil bro..

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 Post subject: Re: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:15 pm 
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SoLdiErz of FoRtUnE,

Thanks.

First of all, my deepest condolences for the loss of your brother.

As far as i can see you're the only one that replies here and explains his view on it in a rational, mature and a somewhat calm manner. Knowing that the truth is always in the eye of the beholder, it's always good to see the perceptions of others.

Yes, this treaty was made because of contacts between you and Shay. As for Shay quitting right after, that isn't the truth. He stayed active for more than 600 ticks and then all of the sudden went quiet. Without any notice here in BD nor to his friends outside BD. (if you know what he does for a living and where he does it you would be worried for him too, like we at BT still are)

I never had any notice from Vulc about the actions NKS made violating the conditions of the treaty.

As for your comment of not being able to pass through AA. At that time we were only with 3 to 4 active members only AND we didn't have made friends with 1ARM/2ARM yet. That was established only after Vulc stepped into SA for the 2nd time.

And i nor anyone from BT has asked nb to steal the relics Vulc held. Only after nb got hold of them he contacted Sephiroth. That was the first contact between BT and nb. After nb told us to get all but 1 off his hands i asked him multiple times for his motivations. Never got a real answer from him on that question. (did Vulc ever contacted nb about his actions?)

And i would like to hear your view on the only condition you ignored to comment on.

If this treaty wasn't made Earth 3 Era 14 would have been much shorter.

It would be good if someone not being allied/friendly to Vulc or BT give his/hers opinion on this treaty and the era itself.


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 Post subject: Re: For all to judge.
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:39 pm 
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Welll, SoF is not he only one answering....
But who is the only one making assumptions?

Actually you re probably right abouth the lenght of the era without treaty... We would have killed the AA coalition and then the ACID group... But we gave you a chance that you did not take...


I don t want to throw any dirt, but we played very fair, as always, and there is no reason for ffstkn or anybody else to talk bad about us...

Somebody wrote that it was an enormous mistake of us to leave the relics in the pacific. Well it was, as our newest ally BT did turn out not to be there.

How did the BTe relic get in your hands BT? You did attack it with a single squad (I saw it and we contemplated what to do). We agreed that it was a breach to the agreement, which said to give us the relics... Many more followed....
Nobody from BT joined to attack Acid. Instead you rebuild and the stat showed it - (you guys had really disappointing stats for a top ally actually).
No clearance for a "road" through SA.
No proposal to hand over any relics.



Well, just to prove the point.... We do answer but where are the second and third opinions in your ally? Before complaining, provide.......
VULC has alwy been honest and will always be.

Anyway, I think BT got what it deserved --- no second place !

By the way, cheers to Finland and Sweden in the World Finals in Ice Hockey.


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