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DocRock · **Posted:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:20 pm

Wel it seems that this has been deemed a war on M3. It wasn't a war, just a skirmish..It started out with 1 echo player attacking the TLS hive. Then it became 2 players, and by the time i got there it had grown into what everybody is calling a war. This I assume is what people are calling "The Siege: Day 5"

As of now there are still only 4 players from ECHO involved in this. So for everybody else on the map, if you really think that ECHO would send its entire army to attack a smaller alliance, then go ahead and try taking our hive. LOL. But be prepared to re-build if you do.

As for my involvement, I can say these things with facts to back them. TLS was afraid at first, especially once the last 2 of us 4 players arrived. Of course only 2 of us were even online for 1/2 of that day so we just played cat and mouse with them for fun and games. We easily shut them down, trapping them into their hive where they had to sit and wait in order to provide a solid defense. In the meantime we took about a dozen ops surrounding the area. Then relics were released so everything changed and focus went elsewhere..there was little interest in TLS any more.

But several TLS members and many broadcasts have been made "trash talking." And yes Mr. Comeon - TLS leader quoted as saying "we are not trash talking, its not allowed," umm...yes u guys r trash talking...undoubtedly so. Ask anyone. And I was actually going to leave the area and move on to more interesting tasks, until the repeated reputation slurring convinced me otherwise. I have received messages both in chat and in-game mail from TLS members, including their leader, asking me to leave so that they could play in peace and without worry. They are unhappy because we have put them on "lockdown" just cuz we're in the area.

Even as some of the others were removing their troops last night I received a message from ComeOn asking for us to remove troops from the area...and then he turns around a few ticks later on broadcast talking bravely about making us run away....why don't we stay and fight....hmmm.

Sounds like a two-faced player to me people so if he is an ally, watch ur treasure chest and don't let him be alone with ur cat. HAHA. Granted they haven't failed at saving their hides while trapped in their little hive, but any group of newbs with a few hundred ticks experience could manage to be diffcult when u have 12 tick shields, homefield advantage, and are 12 members (assuming no multi's) online constantly against 2-4 players. Sure, Hellrising made a mistake. He ran his attack based on a scan that was a cou-ple of ticks old and hadn't seen the reinforcements come in. So yes, that was an easy gift for u guys. And sure, u guys got some troops from another guy by massing ur entire army up against him..anybody could do that. But don't sit back and act like u have suffered no losses. I personally took out over 100 units in one op attack, and sent many more running away. Not counting the other players and what they have done. Plus, yesterday alone I got resources and workers (my fav

) from all the ops i captured..at last count u guys had 1 gate, 1 radar, and 1 op left in ur hive...plus 1 nuke silo southeast. Hmmm..even with tick advantage u lost everything but ur bases and they were only saved by a 12 tick shield and outside help from ur allies such as HLD...

So has TLS with 12 hyper-active members and homefield advantage, plus its allied support in and around the hive really won a "war" against ECHO? Or have they just managed to save their hides from being owned by a few members of the ECHO alliance? Since nobody else is really bringing much action to the round yet, I can see why all the interest is on this subject, but I for one will not sit idly by while my reputation gets thrown in the mud by a bunch of mouthy newbs. I will say not all members have been disrespectful, but the ones who have know who they are and will get the gift of karma returned to them

XtremeRageX · **Posted:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:40 pm

i took out about 160 units just didnt take the time to put it on forums, though hellrising lost he took like 280-350 troops out with him and im sure scanderberg took a lot out with him when he lost that battle, not sure how many he took out though, but im assuming at least 200

AnitsuEx · **Joined:** Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:20 pm **Posts:** 1275

Scanderbag killed armors, Hellrising killed about 20 range, short on armor that time, it was a side mission, he was trapped either way even if he turned.

TLS has no real goodies for you to snatch, you can come and fight, you may take what once belonged to us, but what you lose will be more than what you gain.

I remember about 5-6 players in our hive, not 2-4...

When retreating their was 4 players moving together, and south was Lord Keller. So maybe just 5, but a extra member for you is a big amount of squads compared to us. 8-)

And when you walk in here as one player, to take us out and fail...and needing to actually make coordinates and to attack together to take us out...is uhm...not so good? When you came we were about ranked 7-8 on alliance and had poor power

krazuhl · **Posted:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:42 pm

the interest and hype over the TLS/ECHO conflict ECHO has brought upon themselves. no one has stated the entire ECHO forces were battling the TLS hive, although it has been pointed out many times before that those ECHO members present have made numerous attempt at attacking said TLS colonies with failure.

all ECHO forces have managed to accomplish was make TLS colonies burn activated charged shields using spam, which although "accepted" by the battledawn community is pretty underhanded.

its a little intense on the TLS homefront being constantly poked and prodded, and having to again constantly react to ECHO offensive attacks. to this tick not a single TLS colony or crystal has fallen to ECHO forces. THAT is the victory in this "siege".

yes one of your members made a mistake and we slaughtered his formation for it. yes you have attacked one of our members who have logged in a few minutes too late and he lost his forces for it.

TLS is not meaning to be insultive, but taunt ECHO into making a rash and critical mistake. please by all means, if you find something insulting or offensive report them to the admin. if however TLS is rubbing it in that "echo attacked and failed, again!" while in the public spotlight... well... thats battledawn.

do not play this off as "nothing happened" with the whole world watching. ECHO will not back off because they have taken it personally and TLS is using that against them. if a monster alliance sweeps in with overwhelming troops and milks a lesser alliance who cares? if the little guy ends up keeping the monster at bay in a epic david of goliath battle people eat that up. THAT is what the ECHO vs. TLS hype is all about.

it started with a botched sucker punch snatch and grab attempt on TLS crystals while most of our forces were still locked in a UM war. echo brought in reinforcements as we were pulling troops back to defend the home front. TLS has been the defender and the underdogs the whole time. as long as ECHO keeps making attempts and leave troops poised outside of the TLS hive, TLS will continue to refer to this as a siege. im pretty sure by anyones definition it would be too.

ECHO is in control in a way. they have forced TLS to take this defensive "last stand" which has yet to happen. the time and energy spent in this siege is a victory in itself. if you would like to save face only ECHO has the power to do it. either come in with everything and leave yourselves open to attack and end it, or back off. you continue to pursue a third option which is the 'poke, prod, wait and see do not give up yet'. 6 days and counting and only ECHO is making ECHO look bad.

XtremeRageX · **Posted:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:01 pm

2 others were in the area with like 10 squads in total between the 2 and didnt do anythign, so im not counting them. As for the spam agaisnt shield, underhanded? LOL everyone does that. It wastes your E. if you dont want ur shields to flash from a 1 inf armor units drop ur shield... not that hard. Its literally as easy as clicking a button

and i dont count a 3 or 4 w/e on 12 as a david vs goliath u guys have more numbers than us over there, plus it isnt even all 4 of these 4 players armies either so in reality its even less than that. The trash talk was not on the forums, but i dont care about that. Talk all you want on broadcasts or game chat. As for using our emotions against us, that hasnt happened, getting lord kellar mad actually makes him a lot better at BD and more focused, not more reckless like most people.

krazuhl · **Posted:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:07 pm

XtremeRageX wrote:

As for the spam agaisnt shield, underhanded? LOL everyone does that. It wastes your E. if you dont want ur shields to flash from a 1 inf armor units drop ur shield... not that hard.

yes i agree. the underhanded part of it is constant poking waiting for people to be offline to sleep. i have emailed andrew a suggestion to correct this and he has forwarded it to the battledawn think tank leader for review.

im not complaining about the shield poking tactics, im merely mentioning this is as close as ECHO has come to taking a TLS colony, getting its shields to activate.

we have more members on the battlefield yes. TLS does not have the same troop count. thats the david vs goliath aspect im talking about, the pieces in play on the chess board. if you want to call yourselves the victim and underdog in this fight for having 4 members in the 2nd ranked alliance attacking a alliance out of your league because we have more members go right ahead.

Jetblack09 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:00 pm **Posts:** 40

lol ur right, we had LESS troops then TLS, so i guess we're David?

AnitsuEx · **Joined:** Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:20 pm **Posts:** 1275

We'd have more if everyone was moving

simmen · **Posted:** Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:11 pm

i say good job TLS

i hear in another topic saying they would bring more people xD
i¨'m just glad TLS are a allie, maby i get the chance to help them out a bit in not to long

AnitsuEx · **Joined:** Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:20 pm **Posts:** 1275

ZzZz...LOL at calling us Mouthy newbs. Practically none of us are newbies...as you can see... this is not a SERIOUS round for me at all...

What did I say on broadcast?

They you were running away? Is that disrespectful or taunting you?

I'm basically saying you ran back after launching an assault, or you can call it strategy, whatever same thing, I don't really care. Your attacks have failed.

Yes we have the advantage of being at base, but not all our members are active, and it is the same few going to defend around...keep pay attention more.

You take a broadcast as a insult when it's not a insult. Me saying you running away is saying why you didn't stay and fight? The obvious answer of course was because it would be ridiculous to fight, OBVIOUSLY

ECHO vs. TLS ???