So here we are, Nearing the Tic Needed for Havoc To Start.

10 Relics Finally Obtained by Bye4..

For most of you who read this, you will be against the win, for others you will see the end of a round justly needed.

everyones come to me today, telling me that Bye4 winning the round is a joke.
The relics were obtained, regardless of way of capture.
none of us are new to the ways relics are taken, and none are new to the way todays were captured either.
I want you all to realize something.
As i had an Epiphany today.


How many ex members in our Alliance were asked BY OUR ENEMIES to betray us and take our relics?

We had to take out once loyal members in our alliance because our enemies influenced them to betray us.
We did the same but with a slight adjustment, our plan worked.
We obtained the last 2 relics we needed simply by doing as our enemies did to us.

No we didnt need to fight every alliance in the world and WIN to take the relics.
Cunning tactics and methods were impliments to achieve it.

Why should we watch and allow our own enemies to try to undermine us and do nothing?
We did the same to them and were sucessful.

so think about that one lads.
In most worlds, the round is not won by an all out war, But by words..
ones ability to influence another with words can be the most dangerous thing in anyones arsenal.
Take it from me, who has won most rounds by words.

REGARDLESS of how they were, how are they are, or however they have been in the past.
They have been captured.

Speak your hate and vent your rage if u wish.
But remember, there are some of us who poured heart and soul into the betterment of this alliance.
Best Regards

John Howard..

10 relics my foot.

Do you actually do anything in E4?

More on topic, go ByE4, and let the round end already!

Did ByE4 acquire any relic trough war at all?

Well we were at war with SAH when we got the SAH relic
we were at war with Doom and got the Doom relics
And I'm fairly sure we got another relic off a small alliance who we "warred"
so to answer your question, yes.

Spies, Deception, Backstabbing... all things used on us in war, all things we used in war. just we were successful.

I diden't see ByE4 conqeur DOOM , So that part is invalid.

Gentlemen. the said "Angry people"! Don't even give these guys the satisfaction of your annoyance to yesturdays actions.
Best put, "Talking to these guys is like clapping with one hand"

Correction to what you may be implying. Yes ByE4 and SAH were at war (marked enemies), but we weren’t AT WAR (physically fighting) when you took the relic; you bought it! (Which I think is against the rules, but it must not be since no punishment was given).

If ByE4 wins congrats, I'd say it was the dirtiest win ever. Plus I don’t know why people would be upset about all the distrust, deceptions, and betrayals, because sometimes... just sometimes... that is how wars are won. In may not be a win of honor, respect, or any dignity... but it IS a win. And that is all that matters in BD. (Only thing is you won’t be trusted next time).

buying relics are against the rules, but who can provide the evidence?

Easily, from the message my member received and from the paypal transaction or whatever online payment system they used.

Well messages might be hard to obtain since I think the player who sold it deleted his account.