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Poll ended at Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:03 pm
Add The Energy Part 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
Add The Heat Part 27%  27%  [ 3 ]
Add Both Parts 18%  18%  [ 2 ]
This Sucks 45%  45%  [ 5 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:25 pm 
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Yes lavasprays and heat controls desperately need to be nerfed. DO NOT EVER make an item that is a staple a (Want to be allies? Sometimes I like to pretend I am a princess riding a pony..) mythical that everyone needs to play. If your cooling isnt 120+ you just autolose to heat. Gtfoh with that. Very poor judgement on Tactisoft's part. Like seriously they have to had seen that coming, i'm 99.99% certain it was done to make players pay money buy mythicals for heat controls. They're too smart to do this unintentionally.

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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:39 pm 
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The game balance is too broken to be fixed now...


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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:12 pm 
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Fluxeon wrote:
The game balance is too broken to be fixed now...


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Only because the devs clearly want it this way. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:47 am 
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Well, you know, heat isn't a big problem, if you're a heat type versus a energy type your heat weapons will be unusable and you'll be quickly beat up.


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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:31 pm 
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strikyer wrote:
Well, you know, heat isn't a big problem, if you're a heat type versus a energy type your heat weapons will be unusable and you'll be quickly beat up.

U can still lose to an axe or double devastation swarm if your cooling is low.
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while i do agree that better cooling needs to be made available to non-spenders i would like to say that 120+ cooling isn't quite needed. for example i fought a mech with dual lava spray and magma barrier. i have somewhere between 82 and 84 cooling (cant remember exactly) and i won the fight. how? i have a diamond shell with a shield (no repair drone, sad) and i just double cooled each turn till they ran out of moves. and no i was not on a cooling pad. after that all they could do was sit there while i blasted away at them. so while cooling does need to be more available it does not need to be at 120.

Your build would be an exception. It's very good against things with limited moves. However it's still VERY inconsistent and has many inherent problems so not many people play it. It's a bit of an outlier in this case.

Most, if not all heat players now need 120+ cooling to play vs other heat players. So do physical players. Without my 140 cooling i would be losing left and right to heat builds with lava sprays.
As previously mentioned, for electric builds with less than 100 cooling, it's a bit of a toss-up. Sometimes you'll be fine, some times you wont. For the sake of consistency you'll end up needing good cooling ESPECIALLY FOR 3V3.

My point still stands. You see very few builds without high cooling. You just auto lose to lavaspray.

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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
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lavaspray builds are often pathetically weak to energy and there are physical builds that when played properly can defeat lava sprayers. (including the one in dead inside's signiture so not sure why he is complaining).

the game in general suffers from each new generation of myths needing to be more powerful than the last to encourage players to pay for them and so we've been gradually getting more and more powerful myths. it's just the way it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Heat Needs An INSANE Debuff
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:43 pm 
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lavaspray builds are often pathetically weak to energy and there are physical builds that when played properly can defeat lava sprayers. (including the one in dead inside's signiture so not sure why he is complaining).

the game in general suffers from each new generation of myths needing to be more powerful than the last to encourage players to pay for them and so we've been gradually getting more and more powerful myths. it's just the way it is.

You misunderstood me. I do fine vs heat. Great even. I'm complaining on behalf of the players that play for free. That don't have 3 heat controls. That's what I'm complaining about. :roll:
Read my post again and I think you'll see it.

Regardless, lava spray and heat controls are a problem to players that play for free.

Both should be nerfed. A small nerf to lavaspray would do the trick. Take away the 2 range... or some heat damage... or keep those and take away the cooling/heat damage. Very simple.

Heat controls are very self explanatory. They should be dropped to 30 cooling not 40. However this shouldnt really be done if lavaspray isnt hit.

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