Or here is a simpler fix, leave it exactly the way it is but put a message the first time someone quits stating it hurts their rank. That directly fixes what you say you have a problem with now being that people do not know it hurts them. I still believe my other point remains though in that rankings are superficial, they are a means to stroke our own ego but the community knows our actual reputation. Also let's go back to what you said about the people leaving with 1 or 2 turns left to find another match where they stand a chance, do you believe they should be penalized too? Because they are simply saving time and being courteous so do they deserve to lose credits? (When I say lose credits I mean either by not earning any from quitting or actually having credits taken from them)

I know some very good players that are not incredibly high in the ranking however and I know you do as well. Our respect and knowledge of their skill is not based on their rank alone but their reputation, our history with them, and for many of the longer time players our interactions on the forums with them to get to know them a bit better. Ranking plays a very minute part in all of that just like bd players know that rank means nothing and other things are more important our sm community knows that same thing holds true here as well.

This will fix only part of the problem. Informing players with in-game messages should be done every time something changes.

This solution will stop people that fight their asses off from quitting in the last 1 or 2 rounds. Obviously those people should not be penalized and I already talked about this:
5. The system is not fair to quitters. It gives them the option to quit from a game that they have no chance to win so they can move forward to the next one faster and penalizes them in a way that almost all of them are not aware of. Most quitters, quit in the last 1 or 2 rounds, when they are sure that they will lose and there is nothing wrong with that.

It will do nothing for the first reason
1. Cheaters can manipulate our rankings in a very drastic way.

It will do nothing for the second reason
2. The system is not fair when it comes to random disconnections that happen frequently.

It will do something for the 4rth reason
4. Even if they learn about the system, most of them will not care and the system will keep failing in preventing quits plus it will keep harming the rankings of those that care and want to compete.

Most 1rst round quitters probably will not care and they will keep quitting.


@SideOneDummy

Thanks


@lilconquer

Right into the point sarcasm, I loled too.

This makes stronger the argument that this rule does nothing about quitting and therefor it is completely useless and harmful to those that do not hit the quit button and yet the system counts quits against them.

A useless and harmful rule, is a rule that needs to be deleted.


Merged your posts, please do not double post in the future simply edit your previous post to include what you want to add.

This solution will stop people that fight their asses off from quitting in the last 1 or 2 rounds. Obviously those people should not be penalized and I already talked about this:
5. The system is not fair to quitters. It gives them the option to quit from a game that they have no chance to win so they can move forward to the next one faster and penalizes them in a way that almost all of them are not aware of. Most quitters, quit in the last 1 or 2 rounds, when they are sure that they will lose and there is nothing wrong with that.

You do not see the contradiction in that? You say this will stop them from doing so and then you say there is nothing wrong with them doing so.

1. Cheaters can manipulate our rankings in a very drastic way. "but it is not a drastic impact as you say" Please don't say that I said things that I never said. I never said that.

You said they affect it in a drastic way and then you say that you never said they impact it in a drastic way. Anyways any impact does suck but most games have flaws and all we can do is work them out as fast as possible while making sure the fix does not cause more issues. Changing this however does not affect the exploiters ranking on leaderboards what would affect that is when the patch for those exploits is made.

I already said, there is nothing wrong with my ISP, nothing wrong with my router, nothing wrong with my Internet connection in general. The game still disconnects you and once it disconnects you there is no way of reconnecting and one unlucky player will get a quitted game on his score. Once again it doesn't matter if it happens rarely. It happens, it "reduces rank dramatically" and needs fixing.

Again this is not an issue with the penalty but another issue so that should not really factor in here. Also I haven't seen people really mention disconnecting on the forums really which is still what leads me to believe it is more localized to you than a game side issue. As I said I have never disconnected, not once in hundreds of matches and I do not believe in luck and I especially do not believe that my luck could be that good if it did exist.

Then why you implemented this rule in the first place? You say you did it to deter quitting and yet you just admitted that it will do nothing about it. The only thing that it does is affecting the rankings of legit players in a negative way.

Let me make something very clear before I go any further with this, I in no way did anything to do with the changes. I do not work for the game, I do not influence the changes, and I certainly do not create those changes. Now with that being said it gives people something to think about, whether they care about rank and want to stick it out a little longer or if they want to simply quit and move on. Having to think about it and make that decisions means it does deter quitting. This is not a change that only negatively affects "legit players" because even those legit players will have some time when they just want to quit a match, that is their right but they also should pay the price for it. However you are not quitting often therefore it should still remained balance and not hurt you too much. If you quit constantly however it will have a very major impact on you.

We are pointing where the problem is and we suggest an easy and simple solution and we just hope that you (the developers) might listen us.

Again I am going to say this explicitly to ensure there is no confusion I am not a developer and I do not control any of this. Now with that being said this is still a fair system, the issues you have with this system being implemented is not actually an issue with the system itself but an issue with disconnecting, or playing exploiters but that is not an issue with the mechanics of this system.

@Korupt

Sometimes you make me believe that you are trolling.

You are a Moderator and since the beginning of this conversation you act like a link with the developers and this fine because this is what Moderators do and that’s why they are so needed. Now you tell us that you have nothing to do with this. If you are a link indeed you shouldn’t make this clarification. We know. If you are not a link, stop acting like one. In any case I will keep referring to you like you are a link, unless you clarify that you are not a link and you are just expressing your personal opinion.

I said “cheaters can manipulate our rankings in a very drastic way”.
You said “but it is not a drastic impact as you say". In other words you imply that somewhere I said “it is NOT a drastic impact” but I never said that.
Obviously those 2 statements are not the same. In fact they are the exact opposite.
I asked you to stop saying that I said things that I never said, yet you put this 2 together and you say that I said both. If this is not trolling then I do not know what it is.

You keep talking about a contradiction that only you can see. This is easy. I will not explain it again. Try to understand it.



The FACTS show that this rule does nothing. Almost half of the games end up in quitting. First round quitters that do not even know or do not even care about getting penalized and last round quitters that should not be penalized, yet you penalize them because they do not know about the rule or they don’t care.

It is funny how you select what you want to answer and you dodge the important stuff.

Anyway, the request/suggestion has been made and all the arguments are here for everyone to see. I don't think that there is anything else to be said. In any case this is important for some players. The developers will decide if this is important for their game too.

Have a good day everyone!